Did we land on the moon ??

[gogsard]

sapa tgk documentary nie kat Astro ??? best siut .. banyak kebenaran dan bukti yg mengatakan kita tak pernah land kat bulan.

[trew]

yg paling best tu sbb radiasi kat bulan tu la... dia ckp takde sape leh tahan... dan sbb tu gak la USSR tak try pun ke bulan...

wassalam.

[cowboy]

ape tajuk documentari tu?? ch berape??

[superb]

aku percaya yg memang amerika tak penah land on the moon..dah lama aku tahu pasal ni..tapi kalau tgk dokumentari mlm tadi pun mmg convincing hujah2 daripada conspiracy theorist..sbb NASA takde hujah yg kukuh utk balas balik..balik2 ckp yg diorang takde masa nak layan argument2 org yag tak percaya..hujah2 dari conspiracy theorist tu dtg daripada scientist2 terkenal dan org2 yg berpengetahuan luas pasal bende ni..so for me "we failed landing on moon"

[nabora]

cowboy,
kat Star World kul 9pm...
ye-ye je cakap Area51 tu tempat alien...
rupanya tempat dia buat filem land on the moon...
hahaha...
"If we can't make it, fake it"

[cyrus77]

biasa la, US...cam dia wat kat Iraq dan Afghan sekarang nie

[ustad]

menda ni pon dulu ada masuk paper utusan...hehe..mmg US penipu abis...

[Lady_paNavia]

isk x sempat nak tgk... ada ulangan tak? sure ada kan.. tp nak kena cari plak dlm buku astro.. huhu malasnya..

[ed_thix]

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html baca dulu baru buat analisis nak caya ke tak, anyway the conspiracy show was aired in FOX in US, and FOX did make lotsa money by just raising moon hoax issue

[Ninja]

Aku pernah nengok gak cite nihh.. penjelasan bagaimana gambar2 yang NASA ambil semasa di bulan tuh cukup logik jugak kalau difikirkan....pasal bayang-bayang, pasal angin, pasal radiasi.... all make sense...

[superb]

still the explaination from NASA in the website is not convincing enough!!kalau mereka mmg land on moon..kenapa sampai sekarang takde lagi yg nak land on moon??kalau nak dibandingkan dgn tahun 1967, sekarang lagi byk teknologi terkini..but US tak nak buat lagi..and even USSR (now Rusia) tak penah nak pegi bulan because of the radiation!!it is clearly that US Faked it!!!

[Lorong]

.....diaorang menipu dapat menguatkan semangat untuk memajukan pengetahuan dibidang angkasa. Seperti satu booster dalam meningkatkan moral para saintis hingga menjadi satu kuasa yang disegani.......................

[superb]

they lied because they were embarrased if they didn't become the first to land on the moon..that's why???

[Morpheus]

Now we know US make a lot of fake photo, film & news. Do we open our eyes to our muslim brothers in Iraq, Palestine, Chechnya, Afghanistan and other country.

Dulu cerita tipu yang US buat guna teknologi 60an dunia percaya. Sekarang teknologi menipunya lebih hebat tapi kita masih tak mampu nak analisis. Semua berita kata:
- Osama Laden bom WTC kita percaya
- Orang Islam bom Bali, kita percaya

Tidak fikirkah kita tentang penipuan?

Pihak penyiaran negara kita pun bulat2 terima berita luar dan sebarkan ke negara kita. Kita masih lagi percaya bulat2... Lalu orang bertanya, habis nak percaya siapa? Jawapan: Buatlah analisis, jika tak mampu jangan percaya bulat2 anggaplah ia sebagai kemungkinan dan betul pada bahagian yang benar2 jelas sahaja.

Sorry... aku tak pandai bab pemalsuan dalam penyiaran... Mungkin sifu lebih tahu.

[Lorong]

Dulu cerita tipu yang US buat guna teknologi 60an dunia percaya. Sekarang teknologi menipunya lebih hebat tapi kita masih tak mampu nak analisis. Semua berita kata:
- Osama Laden bom WTC kita percaya
- Orang Islam bom Bali, kita percaya

Tidak fikirkah kita tentang penipuan?




...........aku percaya yang buat tu orang yang mengaku dia Islam. Tapi tak beramal dengan ajaran Islam..............

[superb]

Now we know US make a lot of fake photo, film & news. Do we open our eyes to our muslim brothers in Iraq, Palestine, Chechnya, Afghanistan and other country.

Dulu cerita tipu yang US buat guna teknologi 60an dunia percaya. Sekarang teknologi menipunya lebih hebat tapi kita masih tak mampu nak analisis. Semua berita kata:
- Osama Laden bom WTC kita percaya
- Orang Islam bom Bali, kita percaya

Tidak fikirkah kita tentang penipuan?

this is so obvious!!mmg mereka yg buat?sbb terlampau fanatik dan tak reti2 nak guna pendekatan yg lain..sikit2 bunuh!sikit2 bom!!api kalau balas ngan api jadi lagi besar!!!

[sol_badguy]

korang tau kan plumbum boleh absorb radiation kan? pakaian angkasawan diperbuat daripada plumbum. dan radiation akibat sinar kosmik x de merbahaya sangat. kecuali kalo ada nuetron bebas yang banyak kat bulan nuh. (nuetron boleh melepasi pakaian plumbum dan mengionkan sel-sel badan kita). kalo ada sumber alpha, beta or gamma, pakai plumbum + benda2 lain ok kot. tapi kena tengok berapa level radiation kat bulan dan berapa tebal pakaian plumbum untuk `kecilkan` sinaran tu.

lagi satu, kat permuykaan bulan tu dia orang takleh lama2. sebab semakin lama dia orang kat permukaan bulan, semakin banyak radiation yang diserap. sebab tu aku rasa, diaorang x lama kat permukaan bulan, cepat-cepat balik kapal.

cuma nuetron ajer yang signifikan yang boleh mengionkan badan manusia/merosakkan sel2 badan manusia. alpha takleh tembus plumbum, beta pun takleh tembus plumbum (lepastu hasilkan sinar-x) dan gamma berkurang secara eksponen dengan ketebalan plumbum. cuma nuetron sahaja yang takbleh dihentikan dan dikurangkan bilangannya. persoalannya, bulan tu banyak sumber alur nuetron ker?

[gogsard]

dalam documentary derang quote astronout tu semua pakai aluminum suit.

[sol_badguy]

hmm.. yer kot.. aku x pasti sangat. yer kot. tapi alumunium pun boleh jugak serap radiation. lagi tiinggi no atom lagi baik. ntahlah.

cuma satu ler. orang kena radiation bukan mati terus lepas tu. cuma radiation yang tersangat tinggi jer akan mati dalam tempoh 2 minggu (lazimnya orang camni bekerja dalam reaktor nuklear, dan kemudian berlaku kontiminasi radioaktif) dan mati akibat kerosakan saraf.

tapi kaan, kalo ada radioaktif, mesti pakai baju plumbum punya. even kat hospital, pekerja jabatan x-ray pun pakai baju plumbum.

[NSX]

tak tengok lah, ade siaran ulangan ke?

[jejari_ketam]

aku selalu gi bulan apa.korang je yg tak tahu.

[xpthrone]

bayang² die yang banyak memberi keraguan...

[gogsard]

aku selalu gi bulan apa.korang je yg tak tahu.

cucuk bulan kuatttt nieeee ... :taichima:

[greentea]

ntah laaaa......

tapi tingin gak pi bulan :D

[Nagas]

alahai.... gambar 1st yg US land on the moon tu bukannya benar pun..... tu buat via komputer jer... kalau korang amik fakulti kejuruteraan korang tahuler mana benar atau tidak... sebab aku dah tgk kwn aku buat kajian ttg tu... tapi susah jgak nak bezakan sumer tu...

[dragonshooter]

tapi betul ke cite yg aku pernah baca neil armstrong masuk Islam lepas balik dari bulan? dia dgr azan masa jejak bulan, then kat bumi dia dgr benda yg sama keluar dari masjid.

betul ke cite dia masuk Islam tuh?

[yusri_ever]

Mungkin ramai yang mengatakan betulkah apa yang ingin saya perkatakan ini.
Terserahlah pada anda sama ada untuk mempercayai info yg saya ingin katakan ini atau pun tidak.

Saya percaya anda tentu sudah pernah melihat video tentang pendaratan APOLLO di bulan.
Tetapi wajarkah kita mempercayai 100% apa yg ada di dalam video itu?
Adakah rakaman video itu diambil dari bulan atapun ianya dilakukan di bumi ini?
Kenapa saya mengatakan begitu?

Ramai orang percaya manusia telah menjelajah bulan.
tetapi saya tidak percaya.Kenapa?
antara salah satu bukti 'penipuan' yg mengatakan manusia pernah pergi ke bulan ialah the waving of the American flag (bekibarnya benda Amerika di bulan).
-->Saya percaya anda tentu tahu, tiada udara di bulan.Jika tiada udara maka tiadalah angin di bulan.Jika tiada angin kenapa bendera Amerika itu boleh bekibar?
==>Adakah video itu hanya lakonan yang dilakukan oleh Astronaut Amerika bagi mendapat nama?
==>Adakah untuk membuktikan kepada dunia teknologi yang dipunyai oleh Amerika?
==>ataupun untuk mengaburi mata kita tentang peperangan vietnam yang berlaku.

The moon shots were the same concept. People did not like what was going on with the Vietnam war, so, to get the publics mind off of all the bad things going on in Vietnam, the US faked a moon landing. If you check your dates, we abruptly stopped going to the moon around the same time the Vietnam War Ended.

[lihat gambar dibawah]
http://img69.exs.cx/img69/2554/landing.jpg


jika anda lihat bendera diatas anda mungkin dapat melihat gambar bendera Amerika yg sedang berkibar.

--> Bagaimanakah astronaut America itu boleh selamat dari radiasi(radiation)?
(fact) Terdapat radiasi yg sangat kuat dibulan yg akan menyebabkan astronaut Amerika menghidapi cancer. Apa yg menghairankan Astronaut AMerica itu tidak menghidap cancer sedangkan mereka tidak menggunakan alat yang boleh mengelak badan mereka dari radiasi itu.

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Taken from http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

Did man really set foot on the moon?

Shocking : See what NASA has done (Long but worth reading)

Did man really walk on the Moon or was it the ultimate camera trick, asks David Milne?

In the early hours of May 16, 1990, after a week spent watching old video footage of man on the Moon, a thought was turning into an obsession in the mind of Ralph Rene.

"How can the flag be fluttering?" the 47 year old American kept asking himself when there's no wind on the atmosphere free Moon? That moment was to be the beginning of an incredible Space odyssey for the self- taught engineer from New Jersey.

He started investigating the Apollo Moon landings, scouring every NASA film, photo and report with a growing sense of wonder, until finally reaching an awesome conclusion: America had never put a man on the Moon. The giant leap for mankind was fake.

It is of course the conspiracy theory to end all conspiracy theories. But Rene has now put all his findings into a startling book entitled NASA Mooned America. Published by himself, it's being sold by mail order - and is a compelling read.

The story lifts off in 1961 with Russia firing Yuri Gagarin into space, leaving a panicked America trailing in the space race. At an emergency meeting of Congress, President Kennedy proposed the ultimate face saver, put a man on the Moon. With an impassioned speech he secured the plan an unbelievable 40 billion dollars.

And so, says Rene (and a growing number of astro-physicists are beginning to agree with him), the great Moon hoax was born. Between 1969 and 1972, seven Apollo ships headed to the Moon. Six claim to have made it, with the ill fated Apollo 13 - whose oxygen tanks apparently exploded halfway being the only casualties. But with the exception of the known rocks, which could have been easily mocked up in a lab, the photographs and film footage are the only proof that the Eagle ever landed. And Rene believes they're fake.

For a start, he says, the TV footage was hopeless. The world tuned in to watch what looked like two blurred white ghosts throw rocks and dust. Part of the reason for the low quality was that, strangely, NASA provided no direct link up. So networks actually had to film man's greatest achievement from a TV screen in Houston - a deliberate ploy, says Rene, so that nobody could properly examine it.

By contrast, the still photos were stunning. Yet that's just the problem. The astronauts took thousands of pictures, each one perfectly exposed and sharply focused. Not one was badly composed or even blurred.

As Rene points out, that's not all: The cameras had no white meters or view ponders. So the astronauts achieved this feet without being able to see what they were doing. There film stock was unaffected by the intense peaks and powerful cosmic radiation on the Moon, conditions that should have made it useless. They managed to adjust their cameras, change film and swap filters in pressurized suits. It should have been almost impossible with the gloves on their fingers.

Award winning British photographer David Persey is convinced the pictures are fake. His astonishing findings are explained alongside the pictures on these pages, but the basic points are as follows: The shadows could only have been created with multiple light sources and,in particular, powerful spotlights. But the only light source on the Moon was the sun.

The American flag and the words "United States" are always Brightly lit, even when everything around is in shadow. Not one still picture matches the film footage, yet NASA claims both were shot at the same time.

The pictures are so perfect, each one would have taken a slick advertising agency hours to put them together. But the astronauts managed it repeatedly. David Persey believes the mistakes were deliberate, left there by "whistle blowers" who were keen for the truth to one day get out.

If Persey is right and the pictures are fake, then we've only NASA's word that man ever went to the Moon. And, asks Rene, "Why would anyone fake pictures of an event that actually happened?"

The questions don't stop there. Outer space is awash with deadly radiation that emanates from solar flares firing out from the sun. Standard astronauts orbiting earth in near space, like those who recently fixed the Hubble telescope, are protected by the earth's Van Allen belt. But the Moon is to 240,000 miles distant, way outside this safe band. And, during the Apollo flights, astronomical data shows there were no less than 1,485 such flares.

John Mauldin, a physicist who works for NASA, once said shielding at least two meters thick would be needed. Yet the walls of the Lunar Landers which took astronauts from the spaceship to the moons surface were, said NASA, about the thickness of heavy duty aluminum foil.

How could that stop this deadly radiation? And if the astronauts were protected by their space suits, why didn't rescue workers use such protective gear at the Chernobyl meltdown, which released only a fraction of the dose astronauts would encounter? Not one Apollo astronaut ever contracted cancer - not even the Apollo 16 crew who were on their way to the Moon when a big flare started. "They should have been fried", says Rene.

Furthermore, every Apollo mission before number 11 (the first to the Moon) was plagued with around 20,000 defects a-piece. Yet, with the exception of Apollo 13, NASA claims there wasn't one major technical problem on any of their Moon missions. Just one effect could have blown the whole thing. "The odds against these are so unlikely that God must have been the co-pilot," says Rene.

Several years after NASA claimed its first Moon landing, Buzz Aldrin "the second man on the Moon" was asked at a banquet what it felt like to step on to the lunar surface. Aldrin staggered to his feet and left the room crying uncontrollably. It would not be the last time he did this. "It strikes me he's suffering from trying to live out a very big lie," says Rene. Aldrin may also fear for his life.

Virgil Grissom, a NASA astronaut who baited the Apollo program, was due to pilot Apollo 1 as part of the landings build up. In January 1967, he hung a lemon on his Apollo capsule (in the US, unroadworthy cars are called lemons) and told his wife Betty: "If there is ever a serious accident in the space program, it's likely to be me."

Nobody knows what fuelled his fears, but by the end of the month he and his two co-pilots were dead, burnt to death during a test run when their capsule, pumped full of high pressure pure oxygen, exploded.

Scientists couldn't believe NASA's carelessness - even a chemistry students in high school know high pressure oxygen is extremely explosive. In fact, before the first manned Apollo fight even cleared the launch pad, a total of 11 would be astronauts were dead. Apart from the three who were incinerated, seven died in plane crashes and one in a car smash. Now this is
a spectacular accident rate.

"One wonders if these 'accidents' weren't NASA's way of correcting mistakes," says Rene. "Of saying that some of these men didn't have the sort of 'right stuff' they were looking."

NASA wont respond to any of these claims, their press office will only say that the Moon landings happened and the pictures are real. But a NASA public affairs officer called Julian Scheer once delighted 200 guests at a private party with footage of astronauts apparently on a landscape. It had been made on a mission film set and was identical to what NASA claimed was they real lunar landscape. "The purpose of this film," Scheer told the enthralled group, "is to indicate that you really can fake things on the ground, almost to the point of deception." He then invited his audience to "Come to your own decision about whether or not man actually did walk on the Moon."

A sudden attack of honesty? You bet, says Rene, who claims the only real thing about the Apollo missions were the lift offs. "The astronauts simply have to be on board," he says, "in case the rocket exploded. It was the easiest way to ensure NASA wasn't left with three astronauts who ought to be dead." he claims, adding that they came down a day or so later, out of the
public eye (global surveillance wasn't what it is now) and into the safe hands of NASA officials, who whisked them off to prepare for the big day a week later.


more..............
visit any of this website
http://batesmotel.8m.com
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

-------------------------------------------------------Anda juga patut membaca fakta yang menyanggah pendakwaan tentang penipu yang dilakukan oleh Astronaut Amerika yang boleh menerangkan kenapa sesuatu fakta yg diperkatakan disini ini adalah salah.

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Membaca dari 2 pihak yg bercanggahan baru best
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Untuk membaca fakta yang menyanggah pendakwaan tentang penipu yang dilakukan oleh Astronaut Amerika yang boleh menerangkan kenapa sesuatu fakta yg diperkatakan disini ini adalah salah anda bolehlah melayari

http://www.lunaranomalies.com/fake-moon.htm
http://www.lunaranomalies.com/fake-moon2.htm



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[haRlina]

mmg la tak caye dr zaman atuk kite lagi.. tah tepi gunung mane tah diorg p.. kate kat bulan... kan kan kan???

[kadiology]

did america create a bomb that can kill millions?
masa zaman perang dunia ke2 dulu, kalau kau kata ada bomb boleh bunuh lebih dari 3 orang, tobat la orang takkan percaya tak pun deorang kata ko penipu. tapi perkara sebaliknya berlaku. 40 ribu orang kehilangan nyawa sekelip mata akibat hidrogen bomb yang di cipta oleh US.

tipu atau tak tipu, kita kena admit yang dari segi teknologi, kita ketinggalan 60 tahun di belakang mereka. kita hanya pengguna teknologi. tapi kita tak boleh menjadi apa orang kata 'in the state of denial'. silap haribulan, mereka yang berkata 'america never land on the moon' tu adalah yahudi sendiri kerana mereka nak kita fikir yang america tak pernah advance dalam teknologi angkasa. akibatnya, kita menjadi leka dan perdebatan kita hanya tertumpu kepada 'did US land on the moon'? while we are bz doing that, mereka tengah dok kumpul teknologi dan kepakaran mereka untuk pergi mars pula. and where are we? masih sebok debat samada US land on the moon atau pun tidak.

dont get caught off guard. dulu mereka ada hydrogen bomb sahaja. skarang mereka ada nuklear. takkan nak tunggu ada bomb yang boleh bunuh sejuta orang baru kita nak percaya. ingat tak ronald reagen punya star wars program? bayangkan apa US boleh buat kalau mereka takhluk bulan dan jadikan tu pengkalan militari mereka. by that time, it is already too late. apabila US mendarat di bulan, kita sepatutnya menjadi bertambah berjaga jaga dengan kemampuan mereka dan tidak leka. kita kena jadikan itu sebagai asas untuk bekerja dengan lebih kuat lagi. hari tu ada budak UITM cipta roket yang boleh terbang berkilometer atas langit. kita perlu ada budak budak macam ni ramai. baru kita boleh maju. berdebat sama ada US mendarat atau pon tidak di bulan tidak akan membawa kita ke mana. tapi itu membawa kita kepada persoalan seterusnya, kalau US tak mendarat di bulan, habis tu camne plak timbul cerita yang neil armstrong masuk Islam sebab dengar azan masa di bulan tu?