Pandangan ulama dunia terhadap DSAI

[fosilmitra]

Apa jua pandangan terhadap Anwar Ibrahim, berikut adalah komentar dari puluhan ulama dunia tentang peribadi DS Anwar.

OPEN LETTER CONCERNING DATUK SERI DR. ANWAR IBRAHIM


Al-Salaamu ‘Alaikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuhu,


We, the undersigned, believe the honorable brother Datuk Seri Dr. Anwar Ibrahim to be of the highest ethical and moral integrity, a devout Muslim and a devoted father and husband. He is universally recognized as an advocate for justice and fairness, and he has a long history of promoting Islam and championing Islamic ethical and charitable causes.


We are deeply concerned about the physical safety and freedom of our respected brother Datuk Seri Dr. Anwar Ibrahim. We are troubled by the unsubstantiated and clearly scurrilous claims made against him and his character. Allah says in the Holy Qur’an:


“O ye who believe! Shun much suspicion; for lo! some suspicion is a crime. And spy not, neither backbite one another. Would one of you love to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Ye abhor that (so abhor the other)! And keep your duty (to Allah). Lo! Allah is Relenting, Merciful.” (The Holy Qur’an, Al-Hujurat, 49:12)


Our beloved Malaysia is today one of the leading countries of the Muslim Ummah. It is an example of a successful modern Islamic country, and in many ways a model and example for other Muslim countries. This has been due to the Grace of Allah and then largely to the historical and invaluable efforts and contributions made by Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohammed and Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Badawi (among others). Every Muslim who knows anything about Malaysia is proud and appreciative of these efforts. Equally, every Muslim who knows Malaysian politics is appreciative of the formidable political courage in leadership exhibited by Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohammed during his time as Prime Minister of Malaysia and of the example of personal piety and forbearance that Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Badawi has given the Ummah today.


Indeed, perhaps precisely because of Malaysia’s prominence within the Ummah and the world, we would like to point out that the global Muslim community is paying close attention to the way our respected and honorable brother Dr. Anwar Ibrahim is treated. We have no wish to interfere in the internal politics of Malaysia, or in civil and criminal accusations within the country, which we reiterate are ultimately the business only of the Malaysian state and people. However, the spectacle, ten years ago, of our respected brother Datuk Seri Dr. Anwar Ibrahim sitting patiently in court after having been personally and illegally beaten up by then Police Chief of Malaysia is still fresh within our minds as a travesty of justice and impartiality under the law in a leading Muslim country. We are all still ashamed of that image, which will ever be indelibly engraved in our memories. So we remind our bothers in Malaysia that our beloved Prophet Muhammad (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said that justice is the very goal of government in Islam. And Allah Himself says in the Holy Qur’an:


“Say: My Lord enjoineth justice …” (Al-A’raf, 7:29)


Thus we feel that we have a right — and indeed, an obligation under Islam — to strongly urge the Malaysian authorities to facilitate a swift, transparent and just resolution to this issue and resolutely ensure the safety, freedom and physical well-being of our honorable and respected brother Anwar Ibrahim. Allah says in the Holy Qur’an:


“The Truth is from thy Lord (O Muhammad), so be not thou of those who waver.” (Al-Baqarah, 2:147)


Moreover, given the political implications of the timing of this latest incident; given the political undertones of the previous incidents of similar accusations made in 1998 — which led to the wrongful incarceration of Dr. Anwar Ibrahim for six years, and that have since been publicly refuted in the highest Malaysian court of law — and given the proven questionable nature of the authorities involved in the investigation, we feel morally obliged to also state our deep concern about the prospects of true justice for Anwar Ibrahim in the current authorities in the police and prosecution departments (whose leadership was personally involved in Dr. Anwar Ibrahim’s previous unjust accusations) without deliberate, careful, impartial and independent political oversight. Allah says in the Holy Qur’an:


“Lo! Allah enjoineth justice and kindness, and giving to kinsfolk, and forbiddeth lewdness and abomination and wickedness. He exhorteth you in order that ye may take heed.” (Al-Nahl, 16:90)


Finally, we are morally obliged as Muslims to also point out that our religion and our beloved Prophet Muhammad (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) regard false accusations in these matters to be of extremely grave consequence. In fact, under Islamic Law, accusations of this magnitude that are not substantiated by four eye-witnesses of impeccable character (such as did not occur neither with these accusations nor with the previous ones) incur severe legal punishment only for the accusers themselves. Perhaps what is most insidious and disturbing, however, is the likely malevolent and slanderous intent behind these attacks on the moral character of our brother Dr. Anwar Ibrahim. Allah says in the Holy Qur’an:


“When ye welcomed it with your tongues, and uttered with your mouths that whereof ye had no knowledge, ye counted it a trifle. In the sight of Allah it is very great. / Wherefor, when ye heard it, said ye not: It is not for us to speak of this. Glory be to Thee (O Allah)! This is awful calumny. / Allah admonisheth you that ye repeat not the like thereof ever, if ye are (in truth) believers.” (The Holy Qur’an, Surat Al-Nur, 24:15-17)


However, we have complete trust in Allah and so remain hopeful that the highest political authorities in Malaysia will, in sha Allah, secure an honest and just outcome to this deeply troubling situation. Allah says in the Holy Qur’an:


“Let there arise from you a band of people who invite to goodness, and enjoin right conduct and forbid wrong. Such are they who are successful.” (Aal-‘Imran, 3:104)


Wal-Salaamu ‘Alaikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuhu.


Click here to endorse the open letter

Signed by (in Alphabetical Order of First Names):



Dr. Abubaker Al-Shingieti

President, American Muslims for Constructive Engagement (AMCE)

Prof. Dr. Akbar Ahmed

Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies, American University, Washington DC; Former Pakistani High Commissioner to the UK

Shaykh Al-Habib Ali Zain Al-Abidin Al-Jifri

Founder and Director, Taba Institute, United Arab Emirates

Mr. M. Ali Lakhani

Founder and Editor of Sacred Web: A Journal of Tradition and Modernity, Canada

Dr. Anas Al-Shaikh-Ali

Chair, Association of Muslim Social Scientists UK

Academic Advisor, International Institute of Islamic Thought, London

Ms. Amina Rasul

Lead Convenor, Philippine Council for Islam and Democracy, Mandaluyong City, Philippines

Prof. Dr. Aref Ali Nayed

Muslim Scholar, Libya; Senior Advisor, Cambridge Interfaith Program, Faculty of Divinity, Cambridge University; Former Professor, Institute for Islamic Thought and Civilization (ISTAC), Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Asst. Prof. Dr. Caner Dagli

College of the Holy Cross, Worcester MA, USA

H.E. Shaykh Prof. Dr. Mustafa Cerić

Grand Mufti and Head of Ulema of Bosnia and Herzegovina

Prof. Dr. Din Syamsuddin

President, Central Board of Muhammadiyah, Indonesia

Mr. Eboo Patel

Founder and Executive Director, Interfaith Youth Core, USA

Ms. Farah El-Sharif

President, Muslim Students Association, Georgetown University, USA

Shaykh Faraz Rabbani

Hanafi Scholar; Instructor, The Razi Institute, Canada

Dr. Faroque Khan

Chairman, Islamic Center of Long Island, NY, USA

Prof. Dr. H.R.H. Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad bin Talal

Chairman of the Board of the Royal Aal al-Bayt Institute for Islamic Thought, Jordan

Shaykh Salih bin Sultan Ghalib Al-Quaiti

Hadramaut, Yemen

Mr. Hasan (Charles) Le Gai Eaton

Writer on Islam, UK

Dr. Ibrahim Kalin

Director, SETA Foundation, Ankara, Turkey; Asst. Prof. Georgetown University, USA

Prof. Dr. Ingrid Mattson

President, The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)

Dr. Jamal Barzinji

Vice-President, International Institute of Islamic Thought, USA

Dr. Jonathan Brown

Assistant Professor, University of Washington, USA

Dr. Marve Kavakci

George Washington University

Dr. Mohammad Fadel

Assistant Professor of Law, University of Toronto, Canada

Dr. Mohamed Bechari

President of the National Federation of Muslims of France (FNMF); Secretary-General of The Islamic European conference (EIC/CIE); Vice-President of the Foundation of Islamic Works of France (FOI); President-Rector de of the Avicenna Institute (IASH), France

Mohamed H. Marei

Founder and Director, Qasid Institute, Jordan

Hafiz Moez Masoud

Host of Al-Tariq Al-Sah television show, Cairo, Egypt

H.E. Amb. Dr. Murad Hofmann

Author and Muslim Intellectual, Germany

Mr. Musa Saket

Chairman of the Board, Al-Salam Audio Media (Hayat Fm), Jordan

Prof. Dr. Mustapha Cherif

Muslims Intellectual; Former Minister of Higher Education and Former Ambassador, Algeria

Prof. Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqui

Islamic Scholar and Theologian; Chairman of the Fiqh Council of North America, USA

Dr. Nabil El-Sharif

Editor- in-Chief, Al-Dustour Daily Newspaper, Jordan

Mr. Nihad Awad

National Executive Director, Co-Founder

Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), USA

Shaykh Nuh Ha Mim Keller

Author and Educator, Jordan

Dr. Seyyed Reza Shah-Kazemi

Author and Muslim Scholar, UK

H.E. Prof. Dr. Rusmir Mahmutcehajic

Professor, Sarajevo University; President of the International Forum Bosnia; Former Vice President of the Government of Bosnia and Herzegovina

Prof. S. Abdallah Schleifer

Distinguished Professor, The American University of Cairo; Founder and former Director of the Adham Center for Journalism (AUC); former Washington DC bureau chief Al Arabiya News Channel

Dr. Sayyid Syeed

ISNA Secretary-General, USA

Dr. Sherman A. Jackson

Arthur H. Thurnau Professor of Near Eastern Studies, University of Michigan; Co-Founder The American Learning Institute for Muslims, USA

Mr. Sohail Nakhooda

Editor-in-Chief, Islamica Magazine

Prof. Dr. Sulayman S. Nyang

Howard University, USA

Dr. Tawfik Awji

Beirut Islamic University, Lebanon

Dr. Yusuf Islam

Composer and Philanthropist, Islamia Schools Trust, London, UK

Dr. Yousuf Zia Kavakci

Director Islamic Association of Northern Texas and Member Fiqh Council of North America.

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Ada yg nak komen dari perspektif islam?

[fakhril]

aku tak sempat nak baca pannnnjannnnnng sangat nnti aku baca lu.,.

[ekzos_pipe]

acik, sumber mcm dah mati je la...

[revomatrix]

Open Letter Concerning Anwar Ibrahim

Posted on July 14, 2008 by Rafik 1

In the Name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful
May Peace and Blessings be upon the Prophet Muhammad and his kin
“ … [M]ake peace between them justly, and act equitably. Lo! Allah loveth the equitable. / The believers are naught else than brothers. Therefore make peace between your brethren and observe your duty to Allah that perhaps ye may obtain mercy.” (The Holy Qur’an, Al-Hujurat, 49:9-10)
OPEN LETTER CONCERNING DATUK SERI DR. ANWAR IBRAHIM

Al-Salaamu ‘Alaikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuhu,
We, the undersigned, believe the honorable brother Datuk Seri Dr. Anwar Ibrahim to be of the highest ethical and moral integrity, a devout Muslim and a devoted father and husband. He is universally recognized as an advocate for justice and fairness, and he has a long history of promoting Islam and championing Islamic ethical and charitable causes.

We are deeply concerned about the physical safety and freedom of our respected brother Datuk Seri Dr. Anwar Ibrahim. We are troubled by the unsubstantiated and clearly scurrilous claims made against him and his character. Allah says in the Holy Qur’an:

“O ye who believe! Shun much suspicion; for lo! some suspicion is a crime. And spy not, neither backbite one another. Would one of you love to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Ye abhor that (so abhor the other)! And keep your duty (to Allah). Lo! Allah is Relenting, Merciful.” (The Holy Qur’an, Al-Hujurat, 49:12)

Our beloved Malaysia is today one of the leading countries of the Muslim Ummah. It is an example of a successful modern Islamic country, and in many ways a model and example for other Muslim countries. This has been due to the Grace of Allah and then largely to the historical and invaluable efforts and contributions made by Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohammed and Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Badawi (among others). Every Muslim who knows anything about Malaysia is proud and appreciative of these efforts. Equally, every Muslim who knows Malaysian politics is appreciative of the formidable political courage in leadership exhibited by Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohammed during his time as Prime Minister of Malaysia and of the example of personal piety and forbearance that Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Badawi has given the Ummah today.
Indeed, perhaps precisely because of Malaysia’s prominence within the Ummah and the world, we would like to point out that the global Muslim community is paying close attention to the way our respected and honorable brother Dr. Anwar Ibrahim is treated. We have no wish to interfere in the internal politics of Malaysia, or in civil and criminal accusations within the country, which we reiterate are ultimately the business only of the Malaysian state and people. However, the spectacle, ten years ago, of our respected brother Datuk Seri Dr. Anwar Ibrahim sitting patiently in court after having been personally and illegally beaten up by then Police Chief of Malaysia is still fresh within our minds as a travesty of justice and impartiality under the law in a leading Muslim country. We are all still ashamed of that image, which will ever be indelibly engraved in our memories. So we remind our bothers in Malaysia that our beloved Prophet Muhammad (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said that justice is the very goal of government in Islam. And Allah Himself says in the Holy Qur’an:
“Say: My Lord enjoineth justice …” (Al-A’raf, 7:29)

Thus we feel that we have a right — and indeed, an obligation under Islam — to strongly urge the Malaysian authorities to facilitate a swift, transparent and just resolution to this issue and resolutely ensure the safety, freedom and physical well-being of our honorable and respected brother Anwar Ibrahim. Allah says in the Holy Qur’an:
“The Truth is from thy Lord (O Muhammad), so be not thou of those who waver.” (Al-Baqarah, 2:147)
Moreover, given the political implications of the timing of this latest incident; given the political undertones of the previous incidents of similar accusations made in 1998 — which led to the wrongful incarceration of Dr. Anwar Ibrahim for six years, and that have since been publicly refuted in the highest Malaysian court of law — and given the proven questionable nature of the authorities involved in the investigation, we feel morally obliged to also state our deep concern about the prospects of true justice for Anwar Ibrahim in the current authorities in the police and prosecution departments (whose leadership was personally involved in Dr. Anwar Ibrahim’s previous unjust accusations) without deliberate, careful, impartial and independent political oversight. Allah says in the Holy Qur’an:

“Lo! Allah enjoineth justice and kindness, and giving to kinsfolk, and forbiddeth lewdness and abomination and wickedness. He exhorteth you in order that ye may take heed.” (Al-Nahl, 16:90)

Finally, we are morally obliged as Muslims to also point out that our religion and our beloved Prophet Muhammad (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) regard false accusations in these matters to be of extremely grave consequence. In fact, under Islamic Law, accusations of this magnitude that are not substantiated by four eye-witnesses of impeccable character (such as did not occur neither with these accusations nor with the previous ones) incur severe legal punishment only for the accusers themselves. Perhaps what is most insidious and disturbing, however, is the likely malevolent and slanderous intent behind these attacks on the moral character of our brother Dr. Anwar Ibrahim. Allah says in the Holy Qur’an:

“When ye welcomed it with your tongues, and uttered with your mouths that whereof ye had no knowledge, ye counted it a trifle. In the sight of Allah it is very great. / Wherefor, when ye heard it, said ye not: It is not for us to speak of this. Glory be to Thee (O Allah)! This is awful calumny. / Allah admonisheth you that ye repeat not the like thereof ever, if ye are (in truth) believers.” (The Holy Qur’an, Surat Al-Nur, 24:15-17)

However, we have complete trust in Allah and so remain hopeful that the highest political authorities in Malaysia will, in sha Allah, secure an honest and just outcome to this deeply troubling situation. Allah says in the Holy Qur’an:

“Let there arise from you a band of people who invite to goodness, and enjoin right conduct and forbid wrong. Such are they who are successful.” (Aal-‘Imran, 3:104)
Wal-Salaamu ‘Alaikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuhu.

[Neo5]

Jika sekiranya pihak yang lagi satu pula mendapat sokongan dari sekumpulan Ulama yang lain (contohnya) maka bagaimana? Kumpulan ulama mana yang wajar diikuti pandangan mereka?

[spider]

Jika sekiranya pihak yang lagi satu pula mendapat sokongan dari sekumpulan Ulama yang lain (contohnya) maka bagaimana? Kumpulan ulama mana yang wajar diikuti pandangan mereka?

kalau-kalau ni susah nak buat jadi fakta, tunggula tengok ada tak ulama yg jenis sokong depa2 nih, setau aku pendakwah muda UMNO pun tak setuju.

[morpheuzneo]

Kalau tengok senarai yg di katakan ulama tu.. banyak yang berpusat di USA., jadi pihak yg lagi satu boleh pula menggunakan statement - Ini semua ulama made-in-USA.., bukan ulama2 al-azhar atau dari Makkah atau madinah. Banyak juga yg dalam list tu - merupakan wakil dari Interfaith council.

Masih tak cukup kuat lah gesaan sokongan ni kalau tengok dari list2 badan2 yg menyokong tu.

Melainkan - ulama2 Indonesia, Brunei, Aceh, dan negara2 islam serantau serta yg berpusat di negara2 arab mengeluarkan kenyataan sebegini - maka itu baru kerajaan malaysia akan berasa tertampar.

Tapi ulama itu sendiri pun punya pelbagai cabang dan pendapat, terutama dari yg mengkut fahaman yg tidak akan sama sekali menegur ketua negara atau merendah2kan pemimpin negara (salafi?), pastinya mereka tidak akan mengeluarkan sebarang kenyataan.

Apa pun - kita yg di malaysia ni sepatutnya lebih berani bersuara dan tidak mengharapkan orang lain yg nak menolong saudara2 kita yg terbabit dalam kemelut tuduhan2 yg tak habis2 ni.

Atau kita nak tunggu pilihanraya? sempat ke? sedangkan sekarang pelbagai usaha yg di buat sekarang ni untuk apa? semua nya untuk menggagalkan usaha DSAI utk memegang tampuk pemerintah (even kalau dia menang pun.. )

teruskan saja segala drama2 ni.. bagusnya.. lagi ramai rakyat buka mata..

[Jarr]

So skang kita nak kena gather semua pendapat ulama' ke?
Kalau mcm tu takleh kira pendpt ulama' negara negara besar sahaja..bias nanti.
kena amik seluruh pendpt ulama' or majlis fatwa antarabangsa.
benda ni actually senang citer je kalau DSAI beri kerjasama dari awal tu hari..
ini tidak..sibuk duk kondem perundangan korupla...konspirasi la...
sebenarnya aku dah muak ngan drama DSAI ni...

seks video,what's the big deal?Kau dah buat ngaku je la..DNA kasi angkat mari dulu.
terhegeh hegeh nak kasi DNA.

[Atmi_Raniya]

pada saya, sesiapa yg biasa dengar ucapan DSAI dari dulu malah isu terkini pun, dapat rasa yakin atau tak dgn beliau, itu saja.tq

[Jarr]

pada saya, sesiapa yg biasa dengar ucapan DSAI dari dulu malah isu terkini pun, dapat rasa yakin atau tak dgn beliau, itu saja.tq

dia pakar brainwash...

[fosilmitra]

seks video,what's the big deal?Kau dah buat ngaku je la..DNA kasi angkat mari dulu.
terhegeh hegeh nak kasi DNA.

Acik nak tanya sdr Jarr... kamu tahu ke apa keputusan mahkamah terhadap segala kes yg menyebabkan DSAI ke penjara selama 8 thn?... Apa pertuduhan yg dikenakan ke atas beliau sehinggakan beliau dimasukkan ke dlm penjara selama 8 thn?...

Pada acik, kalau takat ada bukti DNA je dah membolehkan semua manusia samada benar² bersalah atau yg tidak bersalah sama sekali... maka jawabnyer lepas nie tak perlulah diadakan mahkamah dan juga para peguam² memadai dgn hanya adanya pihak CSI..

Wallahu a'lam bisshawab.

[spider]

Pusing2 pun korang dah bleh agak keputusan camner, skang ni apa yg aku nampak DSAI akan cuba melengahkan selengah-lengahnya supaya takdela cepat sangat dia kena. Tak taula ada lagi yg tak nampak benda nih

[Jarr]

Salam acik,

Saya takkan refer pada kes dia sebelum ni since benda tu dah berlarutan dari zaman saya abis sekolah sampailah sekarang.
Bendanya simple,saya takkan kata with DNA kita boleh terus menghukum seseorang tu..
dari segi lojik,kenapa dia sendiri refused nak kasi DNA dia?


wujudnya mahkamah atas dasar perundangan...dalam masa yg sama segala kerjasama kedua belah pihak tu penting.

Kalau sebelah pihak duk sibuk main tarik tali,claim itu ini korupsi (walhal dia sendiri,korup tak ingat),konspirasi why not he reveal everything dengan bukti sekali?Kalau dia tak bersalah,beri satu bukti kukuh yg dia tak bersalah..
jgn mulut je bising tuduh itu ini korup,fitnah,konpirasi etc etc.

and kat twitter sama jugak..duduk ckp pihak ni pemerintahan korupsi,fitnah,burukkan M'sia ke negara lain?Okeh perjuangan dia skang atas dasar apa?
dulu PKR wujud atas dasar membebaskan DSAI dari ISA.Skang?Semua dah tunggang langgang.
yg ni cantas yg ni,yang tu cantas yang tu?
Satu satu keluar..pastu bila org org ni keluar kata org tu dibayar juta juta?C'mon lah DSAI.
Akaun kau merata rata kat dlm dunia ni...

Acik, point aku skang ni,cuba dia berkerjasama dulu secara tenang.org mintak DNA kasi la..bukan org nak buat klon kau ke apa.Bab sumpah laknat tu aku setuju ngan kata Tuan Guru,buat apa nak sumpah laknat sedangkan kita sendiri yg bersumpah tu tak ikut pakai sunnah dalam islam?tak sah juga sumpah laknat tu..

[luzi]

"Pandangan ulama dunia terhadap DSAI" - berpandangan jauh sebab daru jauh pun mereka dapat beri pandangan dengan baik mengenai DSAI berbanding rakyat Malaysia sendiri.

apakah jika pandangan mereka A+ valuenya, maka DSAI itu sendiri A+ orangnya?

[avicenna]

yup , ni bukan kategori Ulama Dunia , tapi ulama USA (majority).
mmg ada org pandai berkata-kata dan memanipulasi sampai kita yakin dgn dia.

in-the-end , politik itu hak individu. tak dapat mempengaruhi satu sama lain. terpulang lah pada invidividu itu.

bersungguh pung pang pung pang , bile mengundi kat kawasan , calon yg ada , DAP vs BN (MCA).
aduhhh, tersepit !

[fosilmitra]

Acik, point aku skang ni,cuba dia berkerjasama dulu secara tenang.org mintak DNA kasi la..bukan org nak buat klon kau ke apa.

Hmm... tak blehlah lagu nie... kalaulah semua perkara DSAI yg mesti memberikan kerjasama, mcmmana pula dgn kerajaan BN?... Cuba kerajaan berikan kerjasama menjawab semua persoalan mengenai ekonomi, isu² pembunuhan org yg berkepentingan yg belum dijawab oleh kerajaan... barulah fair n square... acik rasa kalau dari dulu kerajaan beri kerjasama menjawab segala persoalan rakyat maka takkan wujud dah Pakatan Rakyat yg ada skrg nie... logik tak jawapan acik?...

p/s: Ini pendapat acik jer...

[Jarr]

ok acik,i get your point there.
ade banyak persoalan dlm hal tu...
tapi acik tahu pecahan mereka mereka yg dlm PKR sebahagaian besarnye adalah mereka mereka yg tak dpt apa yg dihajati masa dlm UMNO?Bilamana DSAI kena tuduhan meliwat masa 98,even org org kanan DSAI sendiri cepat2 berpaling tadah demi kepentingan masing masing.Takyah amik contoh jauh,tgk Zahid Hamidi sudah...

yg mana setia ikut DSAI ni ikut keluar dan reformasi...semua dijanjikan mcm mcm...belum dpt memerintah mcm mcm la bang.
Dah dpt nanti?Aku tak nampak mana hala tuju PKR skang ni Acik...seriously.Sebab beza antara baru bertapak dengan dah lama bertapak banyak bezanya..i dont think they can handle the country,lagi kacau bilau ada.

DSAI berjuang utk kepentingan dia,nak bersihkan nama dia dan dia vowed nak reveal semua konspirasi kerajaan.Apa kurangnya masa dia jadi Deputy dulu?C'mon...takkan tak bleh nampak semua tu.

Basic thing,a very common sense.Dari kita sekolah sampai kita belajar,hampir semua subsidi gomen.(for those mak bapak kaya tolak tepi).Yg dpt biasiswa utk further study ke oversea bersepah...at the end korang nak berpaling ckp kerajaan kau sucks.Then kau kasi reason itu tanggungjawab kerajaan terhadap rakyat.True.Then atas sebab apa plak kau against them?

Dorang catu perbelanjaan kau?Dorang catu makan kau?Dorang rampas harta benda kau?Negara kita bergolak dgn perang saudara?Aku tak relate kan dgn soal agama skang sebab kita berckp secara general..masing masing ade pendpt sendiri pasal tu.

but i don't see where we can go with PKR.DSAI is a dangerous man...this is the truth.Kerajaan ada salahnya,bukan takde.Cuma dlm hal ni,kita boleh nampak sapa salah sapa betul.

wallahualam.

[fosilmitra]

ok acik,i get your point there.
ade banyak persoalan dlm hal tu...
tapi acik tahu pecahan mereka mereka yg dlm PKR sebahagaian besarnye adalah mereka mereka yg tak dpt apa yg dihajati masa dlm UMNO?Bilamana DSAI kena tuduhan meliwat masa 98,even org org kanan DSAI sendiri cepat2 berpaling tadah demi kepentingan masing masing.Takyah amik contoh jauh,tgk Zahid Hamidi sudah...

Setuju dgn kenyataan kamu... sebab tuelah waktu jatuhnyer shahrizat pada Nurul Izzah adalah atas sebab org² yg dok sokong BN dah berpaling tadah pi pangkah izzah... mungkin sebab depa mahu yg jadi pemimpin mereka org yg bergetah skit.. (gurau je)... Tapi fikir logiklah... org yg dok pangkah DAP semuanyer terdiri dari org MCA sendiri.. dah semua org china yg dok pangkah org dia gak... jadi apa nak kisah pasal nie sumer?

yg mana setia ikut DSAI ni ikut keluar dan reformasi...semua dijanjikan mcm mcm...belum dpt memerintah mcm mcm la bang.
Dah dpt nanti?Aku tak nampak mana hala tuju PKR skang ni Acik...seriously.Sebab beza antara baru bertapak dengan dah lama bertapak banyak bezanya..i dont think they can handle the country,lagi kacau bilau ada.

Ramai kalangan org yg masih mahu kerajaan BN memerintah suka membuat andaian² belaka... depa nie kalau kiter lihat background pun bukannyer terdiri dari ahli tukang tilik nasib atau org yg boleh mengetahui apa yg akan berlaku dimasa depan... depa tidak lain hanyalah membuat ramalan dan andaian semata²... yg mana acik sendiri pun mmglah tak tahu apa yg akan berlaku, bleh jadi akan berlaku kacau bilau atau boleh jadi tidak, sebab tue kenalah bagi masa kerajaan baru nie memerintah pulak... kalau tak diberi peluang masakan kiter mampu melihat hasilnyer? Tul dak?

DSAI berjuang utk kepentingan dia,nak bersihkan nama dia dan dia vowed nak reveal semua konspirasi kerajaan.Apa kurangnya masa dia jadi Deputy dulu?C'mon...takkan tak bleh nampak semua tu.

Apa kurangnyer Trio Datuk T yg nak cuba “membersihkan” nama mereka dgn membawa video fitnah DSAI tue... dah terang² Dato Rahim Thamby tue seorg yg mmg tak bleh pakai punya olang maa... tapi acik takmo jadi penyebar fitnah keatas beliau... memadailah jikalau ada yg sudi bercerita pada sdr pasal apa yg pernah dilakukannyer selama ini... Sebab tue dlm islam segala perkara, segala berita, segala fitnah kenalah dilihat siapa yg membawa berita tersebut... kena kaji latarbelakang si pembawa cerita tersebut agar tidak menjadi fitnah yg tidak ada asasnyer....

Basic thing,a very common sense.Dari kita sekolah sampai kita belajar,hampir semua subsidi gomen.(for those mak bapak kaya tolak tepi).Yg dpt biasiswa utk further study ke oversea bersepah...at the end korang nak berpaling ckp kerajaan kau sucks.Then kau kasi reason itu tanggungjawab kerajaan terhadap rakyat.True.Then atas sebab apa plak kau against them?

Itu logiklah sdr Jarr... sebab masa tue yg dok perintah negara nie dah kerajaan BN... cuba tgk skrg nie di Penang, sgor, kedah, kelantan etc... siapa yg dok kasi biasiswa utk further study ke obersea nie?... kerajaan BN lagi kaa?...

Dorang catu perbelanjaan kau?Dorang catu makan kau?Dorang rampas harta benda kau?Negara kita bergolak dgn perang saudara?Aku tak relate kan dgn soal agama skang sebab kita berckp secara general..masing masing ade pendpt sendiri pasal tu.

Acik pun no comment pasal nie...

but i don't see where we can go with PKR.DSAI is a dangerous man...this is the truth.Kerajaan ada salahnya,bukan takde.Cuma dlm hal ni,kita boleh nampak sapa salah sapa betul.

Tah... acik tak nampak mana bahayanyer DSAI nie melainkan beliau dgn penuh susah payah... dengan penuh penderitaan dipenjara selama beberapa tahun tanpa ada pertuduhan (pelikkan) akta ISA nie... dilepaskan dan beliau sendiri ada menceritakan dlm ceramah beliau... “kalau nak ceritakan saya pernah dipenjarakan... ditumbuk, ditelanjangkan, diukuq bagai semuanyer pernah saya alami...” semua yg saya alami ini menjadi pembakar utk saya bekerja lebih bersemangat lagi utk rakyat...

wallahualam.

Wallahu a’lam bisshawab.

p/s: Acik kira kalau nak cite pasal politik nie mmg takkan habis dan mmg takkan dpt semua faktanyer benar belaka melainkan ada sedikit fakta yg auta... so, acik selesai disini saja...

[luzi]

seronok bersembang politik ni, sebenarnya...memang seronok.

[Jarr]

acik, i rest my case.
mungkin kita bincang 2 org je kat mana mana selain dari sini